Legislature(1999 - 2000)

03/09/1999 01:45 PM House FIN

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HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 13                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Relating to using oil spill settlement funds to create                                                                          
an endowment for the sciences at the University of                                                                              
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GENE THERRIAULT stated that HJR 13 would support                                                                       
recent action of the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill (EVOS) Trustees                                                                     
to create a long-term research and monitoring endowment                                                                         
using $115 million dollars of the expected reserve.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The EVOS Trustee Council allocates money obtained from                                                                          
settlement of the Exxon Valdez spill litigation.  Over the                                                                      
years, EVOS funds have largely been used to purchase land                                                                       
for habitat preservation.  The Council has been lacking in                                                                      
the area of research, leaving a gap in understanding future                                                                     
spills and how to respond to them.  It would be beneficial                                                                      
to know if types of marine ecosystems are extra sensitive to                                                                    
certain cleanup activities, and if so, how to respond to                                                                        
spills in those areas.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Therriault concluded that an endowment of this                                                                         
nature would fulfill the intent of the Exxon Valdez Spill                                                                       
settlement and the mission of the Trustee Council, which is                                                                     
to restore, rehabilitate, replace, enhance, and acquire                                                                         
equivalent resources and services in the oil spill regions.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Austerman questioned how many endowed chairs                                                                     
there would be.  Co-Chair Therriault explained that number                                                                      
has not yet been determined.  It would depend on what the                                                                       
Trustees ascertained appropriate.  The chairs would be                                                                          
involved in the areas of research instruction and public                                                                        
service on spill impacted areas.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Austerman voiced concern that $2-$3 million                                                                      
dollars would be used to cover chair costs and, that                                                                            
additionally, the University would be supplemented with                                                                         
research money.  He requested that the University submit a                                                                      
program intent list for use of these funds.  Co-Chair                                                                           
Therriault advised that the proposed bill asks that the EVOS                                                                    
Council consider this proposal and pointed out that this                                                                        
entity operates completely independent of the Legislature.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative J. Davies commented that the endowment would                                                                     
be established by the Trustee Council.  They are required to                                                                    
see that funding is spent appropriately.  He added, when an                                                                     
endowed chair is established, the endowment will generate                                                                       
usually five times other research in that area, thus, income                                                                    
would be leveraged by that factor.  Representative J. Davies                                                                    
instructed that a researcher can not operate in a vacuum;                                                                       
they are dependent on accessing utilities and facilities                                                                        
that a university system can offer.  Support functions for                                                                      
research are audited by the Department of Defense.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Therriault envisioned that the Trustees could endow                                                                    
a chair at the University.  That chair would most likely be                                                                     
an expert in marine sciences, and could provide them with                                                                       
advice.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Austerman suggested that there could be other                                                                    
research organizations that would like to be a part of the                                                                      
process.  He urged that this be a competitive bid for the                                                                       
EVOS Council to consider.  Co-Chair Therriault explained                                                                        
that the actual research was separate from the endowment of                                                                     
the chair.  If the EVOS Council was going to endow chairs to                                                                    
help oversee proposals, they would most likely choose a                                                                         
university.  He ascertained that the Alaska State                                                                               
Legislature would want them to consider the Alaska                                                                              
University system.  The proposed legislation only states                                                                        
that Alaska should use a portion of the funds for endowed                                                                       
chairs.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bunde shared concerns voiced by                                                                                  
Representative Austerman regarding administrative overhead                                                                      
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
In response to Representative Bunde, Co-Chair Therriault                                                                        
stated that the grants are not a moneymaker for the                                                                             
University; although, they would help to spread the fixed                                                                       
costs of the University system over a larger pool.                                                                              
Representative Bunde responded that it would add to the                                                                         
University's cash flow.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Austerman suggested language written on Page                                                                     
4, Line 5 be replaced with "relevant areas or research".                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
WENDY REDMAN, VICE PRESIDENT, UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA-STATEWIDE                                                                    
SYSTEM, FAIRBANKS, disagreed with Representative Austerman                                                                      
that the endowment chairs do not pay attention to what is                                                                       
requested.  The EVOS Trustee Council is a very political                                                                        
body.  The intent of the resolution will have an impact on                                                                      
that body.  What the University envisions would be                                                                              
particularly in the areas of research and public service.                                                                       
In the public service area, there exists faculty in the                                                                         
cooperative extension service and through the marine                                                                            
advisory program.  She noted that those are the primary arms                                                                    
which have dealt with impact and the effects of spill in                                                                        
that region.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Redman continued, the two key areas of focus for the                                                                        
Trustees have been:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
? The need for continual and long term research; and                                                                            
? Providing a way to get all the research previously                                                                            
undertaken out to the public.  The research does                                                                                
not do any good unless it is used.  That research                                                                               
needs to be translated into documents.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Redman addressed the issue of endowed shares.  She                                                                          
stated that the University would treat these type of endowed                                                                    
shares like any other donations made to the University.                                                                         
Essentially, it passes to the University of Alaska                                                                              
foundation, and then like a donation, it would be decided                                                                       
how to spend those funds, then establishing a work plan for                                                                     
that chair.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative J. Davies pointed out that one of the key                                                                        
elements for a long-term research plan is graduate students.                                                                    
Major amounts of research are not undertaken without some                                                                       
graduate students working on the program.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative G. Davis referenced Page 2, Line 23, and                                                                         
asked why those locations were classified.  Ms. Redman                                                                          
replied those units were either affected or have programs                                                                       
with faculty that work there.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Austerman asked about the price tag of $2-$3                                                                     
million dollars per chair.  Ms. Redman stated that it would                                                                     
be closer to $2 million dollars if there are no graduate                                                                        
students involved.  Representative Austerman asked what the                                                                     
$2 million dollars per chair would buy. Co-Chair Therriault                                                                     
pointed out that it was a small endowment, which spins off a                                                                    
particular cost of a function.  Ms. Redman added that the                                                                       
actual administrative costs anticipated per year would be                                                                       
$100 thousand dollars to cover salary benefits, clerical                                                                        
support, travel, commodities and contractual costs.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
TRACY CRAMER, DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATION FOR EVOS,                                                                              
DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME, stated that the EVOS Trustee                                                                       
Council would like to see the resolution passed because of                                                                      
investments results.  At this point in time, all of the                                                                         
joint trust funds are in the treasury and are invested in                                                                       
treasury securities with an average of 100 days security.                                                                       
Currently, the treasury is earning 4.5% to 5% on a large                                                                        
amount of money.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cramer spoke to the issue of the endowed shares.  She                                                                       
stated that the Trustee Council would consider the endowed                                                                      
shares, however, the federal trustees are concerned that                                                                        
given their trust responsibility, they may not be able to                                                                       
hand over a sum of funds, even with an agreement to the                                                                         
University of Alaska.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Austerman asked if the resolve to the endowed                                                                    
chairs was not included in the legislation, would the EVOS                                                                      
Council still support the bill.  Ms. Cramer replied that the                                                                    
Trustee Council does not have an objection to the first                                                                         
resolve.  They would appreciate any assistance that the                                                                         
Legislature could provide toward their limited authorization                                                                    
toward investments, addressed by the second resolve.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Therriault examined the way the 1st resolve was                                                                        
worded and if it would be taken as a "directive".  Ms.                                                                          
Cramer replied that it appeared fine to her.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative J. Davies asked information regarding a                                                                          
recent action creating a long-term endowment.  Ms. Cramer                                                                       
responded that in 1984, the trustee council concluded an                                                                        
environmental impact statement that analyzed the resources                                                                      
and services injured.  Part of that statement included the                                                                      
establishment of the restoration reserve.  The Trustee                                                                          
Council has allocated $12 million dollars each year into                                                                        
that reserve.  The basic assumption is that after the last                                                                      
payment on September 1, 2000, research will continue to be                                                                      
made by the State.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cramer continued, over the last eighteen months, the                                                                        
Trustee Council has been going through a public review                                                                          
process regarding how that money should be spent.  It                                                                           
amounts to roughly $170 million dollars. Based on public                                                                        
comments, the Trustee Council took action on March 1, 1999,                                                                     
and allocated $150 million dollars for research activities.                                                                     
It was assumed that this money would continue to be a                                                                           
perpetual endowment, inflation proofed and that any                                                                             
expenditures would come after inflation proofing.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative J. Davies MOVED an amendment to Page 4, Line                                                                     
4, deleting "use" and inserting "consider using".                                                                               
Representative Bunde OBJECTED.  He stated that a clear                                                                          
message should be sent to EVOS.  Co-Chair Therriault noted                                                                      
that he would not object to the language change.                                                                                
Representative Bunde WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Grussendorf MOVED to report CS HJR 13 (FIN)                                                                      
out of Committee with individual recommendations and with                                                                       
the accompanying fiscal note.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Austerman OBJECTED for the purpose of                                                                            
discussion.  He noted that he was uncomfortable with the                                                                        
School of Fisheries research history. Representative                                                                            
Austerman WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kohring OBJECTED for the purpose of comment.                                                                     
He agreed with Representative Austerman, and asked that                                                                         
other research options should be explored within the private                                                                    
sector.  He added that the legislation was moving away from                                                                     
the mission of what was intended with the Prince William                                                                        
Sound and endowing of chairs.  He commented that the area                                                                       
has been studied for the past ten years and asked why                                                                           
additional research was needed.  Representative Kohring                                                                         
WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bunde OBJECTED for the purpose of a                                                                              
statement.  He commented that it was important that the                                                                         
instructional component not be ignored within the                                                                               
resolution.  Representative Bunde WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There being NO final OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CS HJR 13 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with a "do                                                                        
pass" recommendation and with a zero House Hess fiscal note                                                                     
dated 3/8/99.                                                                                                                   

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